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	<title>Comments on: Multimodal Composition and Vernor Vinge&#8217;s Rainbows End</title>
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		<title>By: So about multimodality&#8230; &#171; Eponymous LP</title>
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		<dc:creator>So about multimodality&#8230; &#171; Eponymous LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to mulitmodality is the increasing use of non-text manuals. Jason Ellis discusses in his blog Dynamic Subspace the application of what is learned in traditional writing classes and how to apply it multimodally. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to mulitmodality is the increasing use of non-text manuals. Jason Ellis discusses in his blog Dynamic Subspace the application of what is learned in traditional writing classes and how to apply it multimodally. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kolter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kolter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d I could go both ways.  I think that multimodal composition would be a great auxillary method to use in the classroom, which is what I do.  The problem with using it as the primary mode of teaching writing is that many of students, I would imagine, are familar with thise technology, in some format, through MySpace, YouTube, Facebook, texting, blogging, etc.  I worry that the informality that usually accompanies the use of MySpace, etc. would translate onto the classroom, also.  Many students are not particularly adept at writing as it is; if this would become the primary mode of writing, I worry that the average skill level would disappear even further.

However...

I also see this as a optimal opportunity for students to explore their perspectives while removing the the anxiety of academic writing.  Similar to classroom discussion, multimodal composition could allow students to express themselves on topics they would feel uncomfortable with when writing an academic paper for a grade.  As an auxiallary tool, it could extend dialogue beyond the classroom and allow students to engage and respond with alternative perspectives and opinions shared by other students.  Also, as an ongoing project, I think that it could hold a level on interest for students that normal academic writing does not.  Of course, like most things in the classroom, this depends on the teacher.  If the teacher is not engaged in the project, as we all at one time or another have found out, it usually falls flat.  However, a teacher&#039;s enthusiasm and, above all else, equitable participation could make the project more memorable than an everyday writing comp class.

With regards to the tech support, I completely understand.  However, you might need to simply devote an entire class to it.  You could also try to elicit the help of a university or school computer lab that usually has some who is mildly tech savy.  That could save you on t-support time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d I could go both ways.  I think that multimodal composition would be a great auxillary method to use in the classroom, which is what I do.  The problem with using it as the primary mode of teaching writing is that many of students, I would imagine, are familar with thise technology, in some format, through MySpace, YouTube, Facebook, texting, blogging, etc.  I worry that the informality that usually accompanies the use of MySpace, etc. would translate onto the classroom, also.  Many students are not particularly adept at writing as it is; if this would become the primary mode of writing, I worry that the average skill level would disappear even further.</p>
<p>However&#8230;</p>
<p>I also see this as a optimal opportunity for students to explore their perspectives while removing the the anxiety of academic writing.  Similar to classroom discussion, multimodal composition could allow students to express themselves on topics they would feel uncomfortable with when writing an academic paper for a grade.  As an auxiallary tool, it could extend dialogue beyond the classroom and allow students to engage and respond with alternative perspectives and opinions shared by other students.  Also, as an ongoing project, I think that it could hold a level on interest for students that normal academic writing does not.  Of course, like most things in the classroom, this depends on the teacher.  If the teacher is not engaged in the project, as we all at one time or another have found out, it usually falls flat.  However, a teacher&#8217;s enthusiasm and, above all else, equitable participation could make the project more memorable than an everyday writing comp class.</p>
<p>With regards to the tech support, I completely understand.  However, you might need to simply devote an entire class to it.  You could also try to elicit the help of a university or school computer lab that usually has some who is mildly tech savy.  That could save you on t-support time.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://dynamicsubspace.net/2008/06/26/multimodal-composition-and-vernor-vinges-rainbows-end/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to transition into the multimedia stuff from trad assignments, yeah?

I think I&#039;m going to give them a fairly wide berth but never deviate from writing, too much.  What I&#039;m going to ask them to do is think about the design of an object or sign from their daily lives that could be improved in order to be more effective.  They can accomplish this however they want, but there will be some written component.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to transition into the multimedia stuff from trad assignments, yeah?</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m going to give them a fairly wide berth but never deviate from writing, too much.  What I&#8217;m going to ask them to do is think about the design of an object or sign from their daily lives that could be improved in order to be more effective.  They can accomplish this however they want, but there will be some written component.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andrew--thanks for the reply and I particularly like your idea for manual readings (Has anyone read software manuals as literature yet? heh).  Let me know how your multimedia assignments go in your composition class this summer.  One thing we talked about in class yesterday was having traditional writing assignments early in the class and then moving into the multimodal stuff.  Are you structuring the class this way, or will you rely heavily on multimedia assignments?  Do you give your students a wide variety of options for those assignments or do you say this assignment is an audio essay and this other one is a video essay, etc.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andrew&#8211;thanks for the reply and I particularly like your idea for manual readings (Has anyone read software manuals as literature yet? heh).  Let me know how your multimedia assignments go in your composition class this summer.  One thing we talked about in class yesterday was having traditional writing assignments early in the class and then moving into the multimodal stuff.  Are you structuring the class this way, or will you rely heavily on multimedia assignments?  Do you give your students a wide variety of options for those assignments or do you say this assignment is an audio essay and this other one is a video essay, etc.?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vinge&#039;s _Rainbows End_ raised a lot of the same questions for me, and for what it&#039;s worth, there is a lot of debate in composition literature about multimodal composition, esp. along the lines you raise.  Should we be teaching students skills that will directly help them in their lives or should we stick to the possibly outdated skills that teach a cognitive perspective that is clearly still useful?  There isn&#039;t a clear answer, because this present moment is the first time an organized, professionalized class of writing instructors has had to deal with a paradigm shift in communicative technologies (from the book to the ... screen?).

I&#039;m on the fence with the issue, myself.  I&#039;m going to be including some multimedia assignments in my composition class this summer, because I think these skills are important, too.  One thing you&#039;ll find is that it&#039;s very hard to make incoming college freshmen better at writing because American high schools produce some truly abysmal writers and some truly talented ones, so you have to help the slower students and risk losing the ones who do a good job. 

The reason I&#039;m including more new media in my course, however, is because American high schools do absolutely nothing to prepare students for composition within the media-saturated environment of contemporary life.  I find, amongst college engineering students when I teach Technical Communications, that these people lack even basic computer problem solving skills (like getting files to class or converting to a different Word Document format).  Moreover, what I find really troubling, is that they have no idea how to find the answers that they need (which gets back to Gu&#039;s high school class in Vinge (asking the right questions)).

So, for me, my inclusion of some tech elements is to get student accustomed to using the computer to solve problems, be they written or &quot;new&quot; media.  Also, the approach of teaching problem solving gets you out of having to do handholding.  Instead, you can assign a manual as &quot;reading&quot; and have them do exercises for homework.  That way, it isn&#039;t all tech support.

But, I understand your frustration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinge&#8217;s _Rainbows End_ raised a lot of the same questions for me, and for what it&#8217;s worth, there is a lot of debate in composition literature about multimodal composition, esp. along the lines you raise.  Should we be teaching students skills that will directly help them in their lives or should we stick to the possibly outdated skills that teach a cognitive perspective that is clearly still useful?  There isn&#8217;t a clear answer, because this present moment is the first time an organized, professionalized class of writing instructors has had to deal with a paradigm shift in communicative technologies (from the book to the &#8230; screen?).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on the fence with the issue, myself.  I&#8217;m going to be including some multimedia assignments in my composition class this summer, because I think these skills are important, too.  One thing you&#8217;ll find is that it&#8217;s very hard to make incoming college freshmen better at writing because American high schools produce some truly abysmal writers and some truly talented ones, so you have to help the slower students and risk losing the ones who do a good job. </p>
<p>The reason I&#8217;m including more new media in my course, however, is because American high schools do absolutely nothing to prepare students for composition within the media-saturated environment of contemporary life.  I find, amongst college engineering students when I teach Technical Communications, that these people lack even basic computer problem solving skills (like getting files to class or converting to a different Word Document format).  Moreover, what I find really troubling, is that they have no idea how to find the answers that they need (which gets back to Gu&#8217;s high school class in Vinge (asking the right questions)).</p>
<p>So, for me, my inclusion of some tech elements is to get student accustomed to using the computer to solve problems, be they written or &#8220;new&#8221; media.  Also, the approach of teaching problem solving gets you out of having to do handholding.  Instead, you can assign a manual as &#8220;reading&#8221; and have them do exercises for homework.  That way, it isn&#8217;t all tech support.</p>
<p>But, I understand your frustration.</p>
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